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Post by rk3689 on Jan 22, 2010 0:05:14 GMT -5
Yes, I also heard your remark not to dq anyone. It's a rare day in acw when I call for a dq, but it has obviously happened and will continue to happen if circumstances dictate a dq. Wel-l-l...Not for nothing presley, but I thought letting the two submission guys pin that new kid was DQ-able, if anything was. But then, I'm an ACH/Caution fan and not a Vega/Jay fan.
And I'm not going to be making a scorecard on DQs or anything and I guess letting that go was...what I asked for ("Don't DQ anyone"), so that's cool; can't complain about that.
But if I don't like one, I'll be booin'. ;D
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Post by rk3689 on Jan 22, 2010 0:08:20 GMT -5
Yes, I also heard your remark not to dq anyone. It's a rare day in acw when I call for a dq, but it has obviously happened and will continue to happen if circumstances dictate a dq. I hate DQs as much as the next guy but this is why Presley is the Sr Official He's a good one, ain't denying it.
But good ones get boos too. Especially from fans of the "bad guys". ;D
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Post by rk3689 on Jan 22, 2010 0:27:12 GMT -5
Come to think of it, that'd make a pretty cool match - ACH/Court vs. Vega/Jay.
Wouldn't mind seeing that one sometime.
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Post by hooliganmontgomery on Jan 22, 2010 20:25:02 GMT -5
weren't Jay AND Vega apart of the match when they pinned the new guy though? ACH was not part of the match that Court was DQed in. Big difference
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Post by presley on Jan 22, 2010 21:23:36 GMT -5
Montgomery, you hit the nail on the head. Both Jay AND Vega were participants in the match, which makes it a totally different scenario than what happened with ACH. With the Lucha rules, and all the action going on, it was impossible for me to know who was "legal" at all times. Any one of the teams could have had both members of the team cover one of their opponents, and I would have counted it same as I did for Jay and Vega.
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Post by rk3689 on Jan 22, 2010 21:35:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I didn't understand the "lucha" rules. I didn't get the explanation that good.
I was accepting not DQ'ing the team in keeping with the ACW idea that Masters should've got in there to save him faster.
But maaan...I'm with ACH, regardless.
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Post by Chingo on Jan 23, 2010 11:11:09 GMT -5
With Lucha rules, a tag is not necessary. When a member of a team is outside the ring, the oartner can go ahead and continue the match.
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Post by barry on Jan 23, 2010 14:18:32 GMT -5
And with scramble rules, any participant can enter the ring when one man leaves, so it didn't have to be a partner who replaced the man leaving the ring.
i.e. when Berry Breeze rolled out of the ring without a tag, Chingo could take his place, but if Davey Vega got there first, than Chingo would not be allowed in by the referee.
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Post by Chingo on Jan 25, 2010 16:45:50 GMT -5
Gracias Barry!!!
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Post by madashsamuels on Jan 25, 2010 18:41:22 GMT -5
Wrestlers from Mexico and Japan.
Wrestlers from Chikara.
Guests: Sonjay Dutt, Petey Williams, Xtreme Tiger, Shingo, Necro Butcher
Returns: Arik Cannon, Nicole Matthews, Joey Ryan, Masada, Matthew Palmer
A title run for Centerfold.
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Post by Office_of_Anarchy on Jan 25, 2010 19:43:43 GMT -5
Wrestlers from Mexico and Japan. Wrestlers from Chikara. Guests: Sonjay Dutt, Petey Williams, Xtreme Tiger, Shingo, Necro Butcher Returns: Arik Cannon, Nicole Matthews, Joey Ryan, Masada, Matthew Palmer A title run for Centerfold. responses in order: as any ACW fans knows, we are huge into bringing in international talent such as BxB Hulk, Yamato, Masada, Cassandro, Escorpion Egipcio, Mystyco Incognito & The DDT guys. we are in constant communication with several international offices.we've also used a ton of Chikara talent such as Quackenbush, Castagnoli, Cannon, Del Rey, Daizee Haze, Delirious, Escorpian eygiptio, Hero & so on. many will return and maybe some new Chikara faces will debut.its hard to predict who will debut in ACW. a Necro return is always possible. If i had to give odds I'd definitely say Shingo is the MOST probable, but who knows. no promises. odds are better than good that everyone on your like of returns will return in 2010. That is really up to Matthew Palmer. he has the talent, drive and passion to make that happen. he needs to return to ACW first before that can happen.
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Post by rk3689 on Jan 26, 2010 0:47:50 GMT -5
Here's a good one:
ACW T-SHIRTS!!!!
And make sure there's some at least 2X; not all of us're small out here.
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Post by barry on Jan 26, 2010 6:43:36 GMT -5
2xl? hell, make a few 4 and 5xl
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Post by rk3689 on Jan 26, 2010 17:11:06 GMT -5
2xl? hell, make a few 4 and 5xl I said at least 2X. ;D
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Post by rk3689 on Jan 29, 2010 0:24:17 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be incredible if ACW booked a big Angelina Love vs. Sarita match?
I mean, right out from under TNA; wouldn't that be awesome?
No titles involved or storylines or anything, just a big, one-on-one showcase match; and the two of them tearing the house down.
THAT would be something to see in 2010 - like in the near future.
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Post by Office_of_Anarchy on Jan 29, 2010 11:23:17 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be incredible if ACW booked a big Angelina Love vs. Sarita match?
I mean, right out from under TNA; wouldn't that be awesome?
No titles involved or storylines or anything, just a big, one-on-one showcase match; and the two of them tearing the house down.
THAT would be something to see in 2010 - like in the near future.
r k from what I've heard from TNA officials is that TNA talents aren't going to be allowed to take indy booking once TNA & WWE start their head to head bore-fests on Monday nights starting in March. I know this is starting to shake up a lot of major Indy feds already.
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Post by Chingo on Jan 29, 2010 20:16:16 GMT -5
On the other hand, it's gonna be our chance to shake our own foundation and keep the Anarchy going strong.
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Post by rk3689 on Jan 30, 2010 0:10:44 GMT -5
On the other hand, it's gonna be our chance to shake our own foundation and keep the Anarchy going strong. That's all well and good and I tend to agree with it, but if what Darin posted happens it's somewhat troubling, since TNA in particular seems to be actively scooping up lady wrestlers. I've never been one to hope for male wrestlers out of TNA (or WWE), but the Joshi division is different, as finding good talent for that division isn't easy.
ACW's approach to lady wrestling is one of the strong points. Getting top name ladies in and having them work ACW style is something that could really push the promotion further.
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Post by Office_of_Anarchy on Jan 30, 2010 2:18:55 GMT -5
we definitely don't need any TNA talent.
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Post by rk3689 on Jan 30, 2010 2:37:59 GMT -5
we definitely don't need any TNA talent. True enough, but the danger is them taking up all the good indy female talent, similar to what Vince did to the territories in the 80's. I mean - No more Kong or Melissa in Shimmer?
One thing indies have that TNA and WWE defintely don't have, is a serious attitude toward lady wrestling. It would suck if a lot of the best talent starts disappearing.
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Post by bigbiss on Jan 30, 2010 5:37:46 GMT -5
we definitely don't need any TNA talent. True enough, but the danger is them taking up all the good indy female talent, similar to what Vince did to the territories in the 80's. I mean - No more Kong or Melissa in Shimmer?
One thing indies have that TNA and WWE defintely don't have, is a serious attitude toward lady wrestling. It would suck if a lot of the best talent starts disappearing.
r kMelissa is no longer with TNA, Kong may or may not be the same story I think Shimmer hinges alot more on Chikara talent then TNA talent right now
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Post by barry on Jan 30, 2010 11:38:17 GMT -5
If TNA and WWE signed every top woman wrestler in the indies 3 things would happen
1. Indy promotions, especially companies like SHIMMER and JAPW-WD would would create new stars. 2. Young girls everywhere would become more interested in becoming women wrestlers as opposed to eye-candy Divas 3. There would not be enough television time for both the Male and Female talent so a large number would be "future endeavored" creating an influx of talent with whom the typical fan is familiar which will in turn send new fans to indy shows.
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Post by ludevig on Jan 30, 2010 12:06:27 GMT -5
That was one of the things i immediately thought about when the January 4th Impact aired. I thought "There is no way their talent is going to be allowed to do Indy shows anymore."
On one hand you can see TNA's side of it if that happens as they don't want any injuries to the wrestlers who would end up in a backstage segment. On the other hand if the talent isnt getting TV time or ring time that regularly then they get booked on indy shows so they can get better at what they do and also get an extra paycheck.
The shitty thing is we not see Daffney in ACW again any time soon. Then again like what was mentioned above with so many in the two big companies means they only have limited time on their shows so a lot more talent gets cut (usually just after Wrestlemania) so there may be an influx of wrestlers to the indy scene.
Just look at what WWE did with Colt Cabana, a gifted wrestler and highly entertaining guy yet he gets a couple of matches and is released. If you have no idea what to do with an entertaining wrestler then that company has lost it's mind. Same with Paul London, another gifted wrestler and crowd favourite yet was released also.
In 10 years time i still see Michaels and HHH on WWE TV near the top of the card. Their buddies will be fighting for the Titles etc etc (This is in fact a nightmare sequence, i dont see WWE going out of business but i don't see them being as mighty as they once were. it may crumble from within as their product drives more and more people away as it has done for the last decade.)
Anyway for 2010 i see ACW growing, more stellar shows and wrestlers shining. I see more and more attention in the online community for ACW and them establishing themself as one of the top Indy companies in the country and the top one in Texas.
I see the Submission Squad becoming a major force to be reckoned with. I see Mike Dell regaining the Title. I see Summers and Childs almost killing each other. I see the Joshi title matches resulting in some of the best matches of the year. And i see more and more surprises from ACW on who gets booked.
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Post by Chingo on Jan 30, 2010 13:22:58 GMT -5
Yeah best believe we gonna kick ass and The SmurfNation will definitely paint the wrestling scene blue!
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Post by Office_of_Anarchy on Jan 30, 2010 13:38:57 GMT -5
The only TNA wrestler we use on a regular basis is Daffney and that shouldn't be affected if TNA wrestlers are pulled from the indies. the Cheerleader Mellisa is story I can't go into on a public forum, never will. Kong attacked Hulk Hogan's BFF, so yeah, I'd say the writing is on the wall. Taylor Wilde is a college student and doesn't take many non-TNA booking, especially one in Texas on a Sunday when she has University on a Monday in Toronto. that basically leaves Ashley Lane, Sarah Stock, Angel Williams and Hamada as the Knockouts we'd like to use that we may or may not be able to. I loathe dealing with the TNA office, and choose to only do it when I feel necessary (another story I'd care to not get into).
as far as TNA signing up all the talent...they don't have a clue who is talented and who isn't. ACW makes its own stars...including Daffney, who openly admits that ACW is the place that made her a wrestler and not a wrestling personality. ACW is Daffney's pro wrestling home, and she is THE reason we have a Joshi division. We here at ACW aren't frightened by anything happening in TNA, we are more saddened to see what is happening to our friends in the company.
long story not-so-short, we'd rather lead the Joshi & pro wrestling revolution than blend in with the background. we'd rather give the Portia Perez, Daffney, Summerlyn, Jacobs, Plisken, Lynn, Dell, Lamotta, Submission Squad, Summers' of the world a chance to carve a niche and find themselves as wrestlers, entertainers and athletes as opposed to being a place for them to get a payday. ACW has more faith in its roster than ANY company in the country and it is obvious that the roster has more faith in ACW than any other company. ACW, between the fans, office and wrestlers are making pro wrestling better and making wrestlers better. Other companies are benefiting from this as well. that is why why do what we do and we are extremely proud of that. ACW is special and those who disagree just don't get what professional wrestling is suppose to be.
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Post by Office_of_Anarchy on Jan 30, 2010 13:59:06 GMT -5
I see Summers and Childs almost killing each other. This will be a definite. The longest running game of one-ups man ship in wrestling. its been a game of cat and mouse since 2002. need I remind the world that on May 17th, 2009 Scot Summers came to the ring after my NRBW and said to me "Anything you can do, I can do better". he cost me a match against him on June 21st, 2009 by having Masada attack me. Anything he can do, I can do better...and did...on January 17th, 2010. the way I see it, we're even, apparently He and Jerry don't feel the same way. despite the boos, I'm not the bad guy.
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Post by rk3689 on Jan 31, 2010 0:24:04 GMT -5
If TNA and WWE signed every top woman wrestler in the indies 3 things would happen 1. Indy promotions, especially companies like SHIMMER and JAPW-WD would would create new stars. 2. Young girls everywhere would become more interested in becoming women wrestlers as opposed to eye-candy Divas 3. There would not be enough television time for both the Male and Female talent so a large number would be "future endeavored" creating an influx of talent with whom the typical fan is familiar which will in turn send new fans to indy shows. These are some very good points and I hope you're right - especially about young women being encouraged to get into it because of the increased exposure; I hadn't thought about that.
One of the bad things that will happen is that we'll see name talent ladies having to do crappy milquetoast three-minute matches and "diva" bull___t. A possible upside is that they might get tired of that, tired of being treated like second-class eye candy, and at the very least Shimmer will be pushed forward, which would eventually bring indies like ACW, that respect and promote female talent, forward as well.
So maybe you're right - that in the long run it might not be so bad, but I still see rough times, especially since TNA seems to have an eye toward lady wrestling like I've never seen WWF/E do.
Darin's right that they don't know how to use that talent, but that doesn't mean they won't try to scoop them up and tie them down in crappy, boring eye candy matches anyway.
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Post by 777 on Jan 31, 2010 9:14:57 GMT -5
I see Summers and Childs almost killing each other. This will be a definite. The longest running game of one-ups man ship in wrestling. its been a game of cat and mouse since 2002. need I remind the world that on May 17th, 2009 Scot Summers came to the ring after my NRBW and said to me "Anything you can do, I can do better". he cost me a match against him on June 21st, 2009 by having Masada attack me. Anything he can do, I can do better...and did...on January 17th, 2010. the way I see it, we're even, apparently He and Jerry don't feel the same way. despite the boos, I'm not the bad guy. In 2010 I hope this feuds story and matches cross through San Antonio and Austin
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Post by rk3689 on Feb 2, 2010 4:11:30 GMT -5
Sassy Stephie.
Annie Social.
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Post by ludevig on Feb 2, 2010 14:08:34 GMT -5
The only TNA wrestler we use on a regular basis is Daffney and that shouldn't be affected if TNA wrestlers are pulled from the indies. the Cheerleader Mellisa is story I can't go into on a public forum, never will. Kong attacked Hulk Hogan's BFF, so yeah, I'd say the writing is on the wall. Taylor Wilde is a college student and doesn't take many non-TNA booking, especially one in Texas on a Sunday when she has University on a Monday in Toronto. that basically leaves Ashley Lane, Sarah Stock, Angel Williams and Hamada as the Knockouts we'd like to use that we may or may not be able to. I loathe dealing with the TNA office, and choose to only do it when I feel necessary (another story I'd care to not get into). as far as TNA signing up all the talent...they don't have a clue who is talented and who isn't. ACW makes its own stars...including Daffney, who openly admits that ACW is the place that made her a wrestler and not a wrestling personality. ACW is Daffney's pro wrestling home, and she is THE reason we have a Joshi division. We here at ACW aren't frightened by anything happening in TNA, we are more saddened to see what is happening to our friends in the company. long story not-so-short, we'd rather lead the Joshi & pro wrestling revolution than blend in with the background. we'd rather give the Portia Perez, Daffney, Summerlyn, Jacobs, Plisken, Lynn, Dell, Lamotta, Submission Squad, Summers' of the world a chance to carve a niche and find themselves as wrestlers, entertainers and athletes as opposed to being a place for them to get a payday. ACW has more faith in its roster than ANY company in the country and it is obvious that the roster has more faith in ACW than any other company. ACW, between the fans, office and wrestlers are making pro wrestling better and making wrestlers better. Other companies are benefiting from this as well. that is why why do what we do and we are extremely proud of that. ACW is special and those who disagree just don't get what professional wrestling is suppose to be. This is why i love ACW. Everyone gets a shot to shine and when they do it benefits not just them but everyone around them. It's good to still see some dignity and respect being shown in Wrestling.
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