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Post by Vsdvvsdsdsddwedw on Dec 29, 2007 17:32:57 GMT -5
I saw this match last night. it sucked. RVD botched doing the rolling thunder for christ sake. yea thats that.
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Post by Office_of_Anarchy on Dec 29, 2007 17:56:18 GMT -5
I saw this match last night. it sucked. RVD botched doing the rolling thunder for christ sake. yea thats that. Not shocked. the shows are usually pretty bad from what I hear...
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Post by Vsdvvsdsdsddwedw on Dec 29, 2007 22:24:44 GMT -5
it was easily the worst indy show ive been too. As far as how bad the matches were.
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Post by bigbiss on Dec 30, 2007 0:53:04 GMT -5
it was easily the worst indy show ive been too. As far as how bad the matches were. Stop by Austin some time
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Post by killerkellykyle on Dec 30, 2007 1:38:37 GMT -5
or pflugerville... at least that one show we went to was so bad i enjoy remembering how bad it was
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Post by Vsdvvsdsdsddwedw on Dec 30, 2007 2:40:14 GMT -5
I know there are worse indy shows out there, i avoid them. This show could have been good, and you woudl think they wanted it to be, sence it was the one year show... but no....
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Post by deathmetaljohnny on Dec 30, 2007 5:07:55 GMT -5
i went to a pwa show a few months ago when they had jay lethal and one of the guys from crime time show up..it was pretty cool that sharmell sold me a ticket and booker t was a nice guy..but the night was ruined when i saw that papa don was on the show...
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Post by joshmonty on Dec 30, 2007 11:39:14 GMT -5
The best match was easily Brett Idol vs. Eddie Craven... every other match was pretty much crap... It would have been a good WWE House show with WWE Guys but it was a shitty indy show.
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Post by REXX REED on Dec 30, 2007 14:55:12 GMT -5
remember though alot of these guys are green, and the fact they call it all in the back doesn't help either. How is that helping them improve. These guys don't probably have a clue how to improvise in front of a crowd. there clueless as most of the guys at pcw. The thing is nobody just goes out there and does it anymore. They have to have it all planned out and thats not gonna make you any better. I know alot of guys who can't work like that, namely me. Lots of guys in acw who don't work that way, and lots who do.
guys will stick with the same route en, even if the crowd is booing, or ain't even reacting. Maybe in a way booker is bringing his guys in slow, not letting them do too many big moves, maybe trying to teach them how to keep there career expanded by not doing all the big moves every night, who knows honestly. The point is the crowd didn't seem into the show, then they should of changed it up. Big difference between former wwe guys and TNA guys. I worked Rodney mack twice, and each match he took one bump and didn't give me a dam thing. I worked Hernandez and took every big move he had, and vice versa and the crowd was into it the whole match. Because we went out there and gave that crowd everything we had.
the fans wanna see at little shows what they see at the big shows too. Indy guys do it, but this is a fed ran by a former wwe, wcw guy who runs his school the exact way. Fuck that. I'm gonna do the same thing in front of 500 fans, that I would do in front of 50,000 fans. You don't see one guy who comes from roh, pwg, tna to acw who goes half ass. The problem is people have a certain view of how the wrestling business should be. Booker has that right, and so does everyone else.
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Post by Vsdvvsdsdsddwedw on Jan 1, 2008 15:47:50 GMT -5
Well i know this much. If I plan a match out in the back, My matches turn out WAY better than on the fly. I need work alot on just being able to call things out there. But if these guys plan spots and such in the back, and still go out there and put on shit matches, theres something wrong with that. more than just a traditinal excuse of "They are green".
Even with that being said, I always worked the crowd even when I was green. And moreso with Booker's fed, He should let the green guys be face's and more experenced guys be heels cause as you know heels call matches. But he had a card FULL of green guys, it was a pain to watch. The most cause i knew i could have done a match on the fly (which I already said was my weak point) and no gear, and been more over and had a better match than over half that show had.
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Post by chucho on Jan 1, 2008 23:36:53 GMT -5
RVD has half assed nearly every match he's been in since the original ECW faded away, I can't imagine him putting forth ANY effort at all for an indy show.
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Post by Vsdvvsdsdsddwedw on Jan 2, 2008 20:45:28 GMT -5
RVD has half assed nearly every match he's been in since the original ECW faded away, I can't imagine him putting forth ANY effort at all for an indy show. QFT
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